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LOL i can tell by your post that you have a double digit iq....berating people over the internet isn't hard and you apparently suck at making assumptions. Listen its cool if we have different opinions but it was never a debate since every post takes a personal shot. It's cool to disagree though, doesn't mean anybodies wrong, just difference of opinions, you should stick to the point at hand and stop talkin about me.
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I understand your point, and it is weak as hell. So just because something is the way it is because of chance, you can't be proud of it?
Yes, actually. I suppose how you look at it would differ depending on any religious views you have (maybe you believe you were "destined" to be white), but being proud of something (especially something as vague as being white), is silly.

Now, if you were more specific (like say, German Pride or American pride), then that makes more sense because it's not pride aimed at a general skin color, but rather at specific people (whom, as a countrymen, you're kinda "related" to). Now this is purely coincidental too, but the increased relation with country men versus just "white people" makes it more justified than white pride.
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New way of looking at it since my last post, but why would you be proud to be white anyways? You were born white, it's not like you accomplished it and should be proud. Not saying you should be ashamed of your colour by any means, but being proud because of it might be overboard
I think that's a good way to put it. Basically, I don't see the point in taking pride in something that you didn't actually achieve or earn. You just happened to have it/be born with it; complete coincidence. Nothing wrong with liking a characteristic I guess, but what's the point in taking pride in it?

EDIT: And like others have said, taking pride in a skin color (white, black, yellow, whatever) just seems silly. I don't consider this the same as having pride in being American or Asian, because you could argue that each of those groups actually have certain general ideals (similar to a certain religion.)

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not much to take pride in

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LOL i can tell by your post that you have a double digit iq....berating people over the internet isn't hard and you apparently suck at making assumptions. Listen its cool if we have different opinions but it was never a debate since every post takes a personal shot. It's cool to disagree though, doesn't mean anybodies wrong, just difference of opinions, you should stick to the point at hand and stop talkin about me.
You have failed to answer any of my questions, and you honestly seem extremely young/naive on the subject, so I am doing the mature thing and stopping the debate here, rather than waste my time. If that offends you, that is your problem. Did I really berate you? I honestly don't remember. If I did, that is my personality, don't take it personal, I'm strongly against sugar coating, I'm blunt and honest, I don't care if it hurts your feelings, if it does, maybe that is saying something.

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Yes, actually.
Wrong, few examples: Life or death situation, snip the red or green, I snip the red save everyone's life, I can't be proud of that? Be born a Mexican American, parents raise me to speak three languages, can't be proud of that? Be born Swedish, root for my fellow Swedes in the Olympics because I'm proud of my white European heritage, can't be proud of that?

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I suppose how you look at it would differ depending on any religious views you have (maybe you believe you were "destined" to be white),
I don't believe that, at all. I would have pride for my heritage no matter what ethnicity I am.

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but being proud of something (especially something as vague as being white), is silly.
Why? I think everyone on this earth should be proud of their heritage.

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Now, if you were more specific (like say, German Pride or American pride), then that makes more sense because it's not pride aimed at a general skin color, but rather at specific people (whom, as a countrymen, you're kinda "related" to). Now this is purely coincidental too, but the increased relation with country men versus just "white people" makes it more justified than white pride.
I'd agree.

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We live in such a messed up society that if you talk about how you are proud of your race people automatically think that you think your race is superior and thus you are called racist.

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I think its fine to be proud of your heritage, white, black, hispanic, asian, whatever.

It comes of as racist if you disrespect other cultures and ethnicities though.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with being proud of your heritage, as long as you aren't disrespecting others' heritage. It would become a problem if you started marching through a primarily black neighborhood screaming, "White pride!"
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The foundations of whiteness are false in the first place. It doesn't help to have any racial pride, it's just melanin. I think it just creates more of a divide.

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Keeping my opinion away....
 

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