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I really wish that you would have elaborated more on your stance on the topics... I'd be interested into hearing what you have to think.
Doing a DNA extract. Bouncing back and forth too much today. But that is how I roll I guess . . .

I am pretty sure you have heard me talk about this stuff about a million time though

I will try to elaborate later after this shit gets done hybridizing.


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Well, forgot about the extensive filtration time . . .

So:

Education. Pretty much every problem we have right now in the world is a matter of education. If people were fully educated on subjects such as economics, environmental concerns, health issues, people would not make so many decisions that are detrimental to themselves. Call me an optimist, I actually would bet that people would act in their own best interest. The problem out there is that people don't know what is in their own best interest most of the time we see bad decisions made. So Obamas plan on revamping education and how we actually teach, is great to me. I could create a whole thread on the education system and the mechanisms of teaching. I got to hang out with Carl E. Wieman (Nobel Prize winner - physics) for a couple days and he taught me so many things in such a little amount of time using methods he developed for teaching. Plus I did my Masters and one of my undergrad degrees at one of the best teaching universities in the nation where we did so much focus on the methods of learning and education advancements that this is a primary concern for me. I have adapted many of the techniques learned from Weiman and UNI in my own classroom. But yeah, all you have to do is look at Obamas ideas for education and they are leaps and bounds beyond most of the other candidates except Edwards.

Environment: Well, I hate the bandwagon that it has become. It is almost uncool to say you don't care about the environment, and the global warming isn't the primary concern of yours now. I hate it so fucking much. But, I have been saying this shit for YEARS. 2 years ago on this damn forum I would be crucified by little shit heads saying its a myth, and calling me a tree hugger. Now everyone and their dog is "green". Well, I asked for it, and I got it. Good and the bad. It shouldn't be popular and cool to concerned for the envrionment, it should just be a priority of everyone for your own damn good. Obamas take on energy independence, renewable resources, and yes fuck coal plants. The only thing I hope he takes another look at is Nuclear Power. He has already pledged to enhance all the usual players in renewable resources, and with the additional money he is going to put into research and education (Universities are where the research is done on this shit) plenty of changes will be seen eventually I hope.

Economy: Cripes, this is a mess. I am hoping for a C - level performance on fixing this fuckup he has inherited. The stimulus packages, the bailouts, I am against all of them. I am also pissed at people that say he is a socialist. They obviously do not know what a socialist is and have not ready Obamas tax plan. Taxing the wealthy more than the poor, giving tax credits to small business, etc . . that is not spreading the wealth, that is business as usual for the last couple hundred years. Most people do not realize that they get a tax cut under Obama. I actually do not support this. We are trillions of dollars in debt, if anything we should raise taxes and curb spending to get rid of our huge national debt.If he can reassure the world of our non- crazy status now, markets and confidence will bounce back and help but honestly just balance the budget, stop spending trillions on shooting brown people, and that is a start for me.

Health Care: This is where Hillary Clinton can make her mark. I am hoping that her influence on the administration comes through in the area that she made her political career. She had an amazing health care plan 5 years ago. Back before she became huge and scary, she was a health czar of sorts. I just hope that Obama listens to her on this one or at least adopts a lot of her ideas. She had a universal health care plan. She wants to bring our health care around to the level of other developed countries, we are faaaaar from the top here. Their plan of right now is a step in the right direction but it seems to be a lot of talk, Clinton's previous plan has been developed for a lot longer and I have always liked it.

Pulling out of these stupid wars: I swear we have learned nothing from history . . . we get into the same dumb messes that a fucking sniper could of fixed. Why did we invade Afganistan when we could of sent a decent sniper to do the job? Same in Iraq, Africa, and pretty much every other place. We have bombs that are accurate to the inch, and we could not blow up the bad guys we are always saying we are going to get out? Bullshit. We go to war to support the industrial military complex. It is not a conspiracy theory, or crazy talk of hippies anymore. Military contracts, lobbiests for construction companies, etc etc. They are all connected and this is why we like to fight people. Obviously it isn't to help people, the people of Iraq have not been helped by us marching up and down their country to find and kill Sadam, we could of just put one bullet in his brain. Much easier and cleaner. If anything, I say that when we go to war we should at least get to keep the land we conquer . . if I remember right, that was a lot of the point of war before? But anyways . .. Getting out of wars will save money, lives, and let us focus on fixing problems we have in our own country.

We still have:
Starvation
Slavery
Drug problems (the bad ones)
Homelessness
Terrorism (not the brow people)
Racism
Hate Crimes
Medical Epidemics

Everything that we say we are going to these countries to free them of. We could be doing right here in the US.




This has been a lot of rambling mainly, do not have time to organize my thoughts as I am still at work, "working".


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I am against obama not because he is black but because his "redistribute the wealth" economic plan did not make any sense to me. so if someone could explain to me how this is going to stimulate the economy please do.
I'm sure some economics major could rip this to shreds but i'll give you my lamans understanding or hope of it all.

Bush has made the rich even richer for the past eight yrs at the expense of the masses. The thing is that the rich don't buy that much more than everyone else. No matter what your income level you still only buy 1 or 2 boxes of cereal or 1 microwave or 1 or 2 cars. By "spreading the wealth" with lower taxes and less costly health insurance among other things Obama will allow for the non-rich to purchase some wants instead of needs. That lower middle class family is gonna get that extra box of the sugary cereal instead of just the healthy stuff, or replace that old microwave that undercooks the food, but they haven't had the money for, or finally get that new car instead of relaying on the one they've had(and repaired over and over) since 95. The rich are the few and the lower/lower-middle/middle classes are the many. When the many can start buying things that would be considered luxuries in this recession/depression we're currently in then the people who make cereal, microwaves, and cars can hire more people to meet the demands of the many purchasing their products.

This belief of mine is why i didn't find McCains claim that small-buinesses will have to fire it's employees due to higher taxes inaccurate. Some small businesses will, but hopefully when the masses have a slightly higher bank account to work with then some of those small buisnesses will see increased sales. I used the examples of cereal and microwaves but imagine this with all the products you see on shelves in Target, Wal Mart, or at the mall.

I'm not an economist by any stretch so i could be dreaming but i read what i thought was a good analogy the other day:

Money is like fertelizer. When you spread it around things grow, and if you don't you just have a big pile of sh.t.


Funny article-
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Obama's Use of Complete Sentences Stirs Controversy

In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eight years through his controversial use of complete sentences, political observers say.

Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama's appearance on CBS's 60 Minutes on Sunday witnessed the president-elect's unorthodox verbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.

But Mr. Obama's decision to use complete sentences in his public pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.

According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University of Minnesota, some Americans might find it "alienating" to have a president who speaks English as if it were his first language.

"Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in agreement," says Mr. Logsdon. "If he keeps it up, he is running the risk of sounding like an elitist."

The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, "Okay, subject, predicate, subject predicate -- we get it, stop showing off."

The president-elect's stubborn insistence on using complete sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.

"Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a way that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder can't really do there, I think needing to do that isn't tapping into what Americans are needing also," she said.
Part of the 60 Minutes Interview


Tried to find the part with Michelle Obama but cbs blocked it. She is going to be an amazing First Lady.

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That lower middle class family is gonna get that extra box of the sugary cereal instead of just the healthy stuff, or replace that old microwave that undercooks the food, but they haven't had the money for, or finally get that new car instead of relaying on the one they've had(and repaired over and over) since 95. The rich are the few and the lower/lower-middle/middle classes are the many. When the many can start buying things that would be considered luxuries in this recession/depression we're currently in then the people who make cereal, microwaves, and cars can hire more people to meet the demands of the many purchasing their products.
You could have more easily and effectively tied this together by using everyone's favorite plumber, Joe. Maybe with some more disposable income, a family will finally call Joe to have their leaky faucet fixed or the dripping pipes for which they had to buy buckets to prevent water damage to their basement. Sure Joe may be facing higher taxes, but, at the same time, with an increase in customers, his taxable income will also rise. Of course then, a higher percentage of the income will be taken away; however, there will most likely be a higher quantity of income left over now if he has more customers than when he had fewer customers under a lower tax rate. It is also a simple case of supply and demand from there. More families need a plumbing job for their house; so, when all of a sudden Joe can't handle all the calls in and doesn't want to lose business, he will have to hire more workers. Or, even better to add to that, the increase in business could allow more firms to enter into the market. So instead of just the extra number of plumbers, a couple secretaries will be hired, same with advertising agencies, van companies sell means of transportation, tool merchandisers sell their plumbing crap, and real estate would also be helped out in the bigger picture.

Of course, this would all work if Joe the Plumber actually owned a company, or wasn't back-logged out the ass with unpaid taxes.

I like the fertilizer line. Where did you find that?

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