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That was part of it yeah. Okay then.
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Bad sh.t happens to everyone. Being 'good' doesn't exclude you from life. Or if you wanted to go deep, there is no good or bad its all relative and person perceiving the situation is the one making it bad.
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Bad sh.t happens to everyone. Being 'good' doesn't exclude you from life. Or if you wanted to go deep, there is no good or bad its all relative and person perceiving the situation is the one making it bad.
So you believe there is no objective morality, correct?
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So you believe there is no objective morality, correct?
Morality is what we make of it, is it not? Your religion is based entirely in the realm of moral relativism.
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Morality is what we make of it, is it not? Your religion is based entirely in the realm of moral relativism.
I think it is what we make of it to an extent, but deep down I believe we all know wrong from right. If we didn't, there would be chaos.
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I think it is what we make of it to an extent, but deep down I believe we all know wrong from right. If we didn't, there would be chaos.

'Right' and 'wrong' are both relative, brah.


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I think it is what we make of it to an extent, but deep down I believe we all know wrong from right. If we didn't, there would be chaos.
Even that is relative. It's wrong to kill one in your own group, from the perspective of evolution, because it weakens the survivability of the group, but you have to kill to eat. We en mass today (I assume you eat meat). World War I is the perfect example of acceptable killing for absolutely no gain. You can justify World War II (most of it, though carpet bombing cities is questionable).

I don't know. I can't think of much about morality that isn't relative. It would be an interesting debate, however
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Were you that freshman? Come sit down in my chair...



...so we can talk about it of course.

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'Right' and 'wrong' are both relative, brah.
Care to give any reasoning?


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Even that is relative. It's wrong to kill one in your own group, from the perspective of evolution, because it weakens the survivability of the group, but you have to kill to eat. We en mass today (I assume you eat meat). World War I is the perfect example of acceptable killing for absolutely no gain. You can justify World War II (most of it, though carpet bombing cities is questionable).

I don't know. I can't think of much about morality that isn't relative. It would be an interesting debate, however
I see nothing wrong with killing animals in order to eat, now if we were to kill humans in order to eat, that is a different story. Just because there are wars and people kill each other, does not make it right.

Obviously there are exceptions for everything, and some cultures/people cross the objective moral value line on occasion, but again, I would argue that although they are doing it, that does not make it right, and also I think they know that they are doing wrong. I think we all know wrong from right, it is innate.

If moral values were not objective, then what would stop you or myself from going and killing or torturing or doing anything we wanted to anyone at anytime anywhere?
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Care to give any reasoning?

TooMuchButtHair has already put it in a nutshell for you. If you don't understand what 'relative' or 'relativity' means then maybe you shouldn't post here.

 

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