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He was not tasked, he was tested, there is a difference. Abraham did not kill Isaac.
But his intent was to and he clearly would have. If
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then the murder was inevitable and as good as done until his intervention.

God's testing Abraham's faith is a trial or a temptation. Abraham acted to furnish proof of his faith in God. Normally, temptation is what keeps a man from doing his duty to God, but in Abraham's case, it is the ethical that would keep him from doing God's will. So is the ethical not divine? You haven't even come close to actually addressing the problem.
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God's testing Abraham's faith is a trial or a temptation. Abraham acted to furnish proof of his faith in God. Normally, temptation is what keeps a man from doing his duty to God, but in Abraham's case, it is the ethical that would keep him from doing God's will. So is the ethical not divine? You haven't even come close to actually addressing the problem.

God was not tempting Abraham, He was testing his faith. I do not see how disobeying direct commands from God can be ethical.
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God was not tempting Abraham, He was testing his faith. I do not see how disobeying direct commands from God can be ethical.
Good poin-
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Thou shalt not kill.
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Good poin- Thou shall not kill
What Abraham and Isaac story are you reading? It is not the one in Genesis 22 apparently. Thou shall not kill has nothing to do with this story, seeing that nobody was killed.
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What Abraham and Isaac story are you reading? It is not the one in Genesis 22 apparently. Thou shall not kill has nothing to do with this story, seeing that nobody was killed.
Oh, you must've missed this part
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5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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Oh, you must've missed this part
What does adultery have to do with Genesis 22?
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Oh, right. That doesn't apply to breaking the other commandments. Just the one specific case.
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Not that I should have to quote scripture to show that murder is immoral and that being all set and ready to do (and on the way to doing it and, without intervention, doing it) it is also immoral.
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Oh, right. That doesn't apply to breaking the other commandments. Just the one specific case.
Genesis 22 has nothing to do with adultery dude.
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I'm having trouble accepting that you're really this fucking dense. And you've missed the point entirely (no surprises there). Abraham was ordered to suspend one ethical obligation (you know, the one about not killing) for another. You haven't done anything more than (poorly) mince words to avoid addressing this problem.

Speaking of poorly mincing words, what Abraham and Isaac story are you reading? It's not the one in Genesis 22 apparently.
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God was not tempting Abraham, He was testing his faith.
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And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham
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