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Why doesn't anyone bring up the simple fact that marriage is the legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife, therefore gays can't wed?
Because that's retarded?


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ooh. ouch. the liberal complaining about fundamental democratic principles. the irony is killing me.
I can very easily complain that the majority are a bunch of stupid bigots.


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As far as I understand it, the state courts did rule on this, which caused the uproar and the Prop 8 vote.
The No on 8 side has already filed complaints to higher courts. It was 52 to 48, hopefully they overturn it. There were also protesters outside the Mormon temple in Westwood today.



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ooh. ouch. the liberal complaining about fundamental democratic principles. the irony is killing me.
I complain about idiots who push their beliefs on others, which proves to be the slight majority of California. Prop 4 and Prop 8 shouldn't have been on the ballot.


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Why doesn't anyone bring up the simple fact that marriage is the legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife, therefore gays can't wed?
Because marriage in this country comes with rights and privilages that should be alloted to everyone.

Because everyone is equal in this country.

Don't know where you are from but you should pick up a US constitution some time.


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I would have voted no on Prop 8 but I'm not old enough, sucks because my uncle voted yes too...oh well, sucks for gay people I guess.
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Don't know where you are from but you should pick up a US constitution some time.
Why? It's not like anybody else in this country does.
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Because marriage in this country comes with rights and privilages that should be alloted to everyone.

Because everyone is equal in this country.

Don't know where you are from but you should pick up a US constitution some time.
By definition gay marriage shouldn't even be a debate, or concept for that matter.
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By definition gay marriage shouldn't even be a debate, or concept for that matter.
As social groups, cultures, and conflicts arise, sometimes you have to change the definition of what something means to rid yourself of that enslaving language of what marriage is based on a traditional definition dating back blahblahblah. Cling as you might to your traditionalist and religious structure, whose arrogance thinks itself applicable in the social world regardless of what era, marriage is being recognized as a civil union between two people.

Would it help you understand if I gave an example of a word, a concept, to which the religious and traditionalist cling to despite the OBVIOUS social recognition that it's something different than the definition?

Mother.

Religiously and traditionally, the mother was the birth giver. Now, your mother is who is mothering you. A grandparent can act as your mother, so can an older sister.

But gee, the Christian perspective sure seems to have a lot of strict lines drawn between the relationship of the different sexes.

Get with the times, Delay. Pick up a new book.

Will you tell me why homosexuality is immoral yet?
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Ah fuck it.

I was going to go off on a rant . . .

But I realize that I just don't care.

There needs to be an iron fist let down and stupidity bans put all around before this section can get back to actual conversations worth my time.


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