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*sigh*
Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_...oli#Article_11


That was signed by President Adams and unanimously ratified by the founding Senate.
Lol... I was about to say, the US was definitely not founded on 'Christian Values'... :\



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Lol... I was about to say, the US was definitely not founded on 'Christian Values'... :\
Hmmm? Sarcasm or no?

I had always thought our nation was founded on these values. Guess i'm still learning.

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That's not up to you to decide.
Nor is it yours.

Making a reference to our founding fathers - what the hell does that have to do with anything.

Appealing to the fallacy of history. Just becuase they did it doesn't make it right, besides our Country is in no way, shape, or form "amazing."

I agree, let our children learn on their own. Nothing afixed upon them, nothing being told besides common human morals. Nothing read from a religious book - it causes ethical confusion.
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Hmmm? Sarcasm or no?

I had always thought our nation was founded on these values. Guess i'm still learning.
Words have been twisted. We hardly follow what our Country set out to follow.

Chrisitanity was not a selected interpreter for morals in our country.

Our founding fathers have also declared that everyone should be able to not be influenced by anything religious in policy.

Seperation of Church and State.

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Can you quote me where I said it was?
Did you not say the opposite of the one who declared it should be done?

I'm assuming you thought you opinion meant something; yet you said you are not one to decide...

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Hmmm? Sarcasm or no?

I had always thought our nation was founded on these values. Guess i'm still learning.
It wasnt sarcasm lol.



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Can you quote me where I said it was?
Instead of pussy footing around can you tell me why it's wrong to stop raising kids on the idea that the only reason to not be bad is you'll go to hell
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Hmmm? Sarcasm or no?

I had always thought our nation was founded on these values. Guess i'm still learning.
I guess I am still to. I'll have to look into it more.
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I guess I am still to. I'll have to look into it more.
What's there to look into? Read Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli. It's stated very clearly.
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I don't actually know much about the founding of America, but just because they wrote it down doesn't necessarily mean they followed it. The Constitution says "all men are created equal", and a lot of good that did.


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I don't actually know much about the founding of America
That's obvious because...
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The Constitution says "all men are created equal", and a lot of good that did.
the Constitution doesn't say that. The Declaration of Independence does.
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