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YOURE SUCH A HYPOCRITE........
Do I have to back this up with evidence too, or is it self-explanatory?
How am I a hypocrite, exactly?

In the fucking movie, the 'evil' Catholics were replaced with dogmatic religions in general - where's the anti-Christian semtiment there?

The books are a slightly different story, but you've still failed to show how they teach the un-ethical.
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Pullman’s stories are crammed with the supernatural and the mystical, and take place mainly in alternative worlds, most captivatingly of all in an Oxford recognisably the same place while utterly different. But while Narnia is under the care of a benevolent, kindly creator, Pullman’s chaotic universe has no ultimate good authority, controlling and redeeming all. God, or someone claiming to be God, dies meaninglessly in the third volume of his trilogy. There is life after death, but it is a dark, squalid misery from which oblivion is a welcome release. Pullman puts forward a complex theory of man’s true destiny, and his stories are a powerful epic that everyone should read. But many who buy these books for children and grandchildren would be surprised, and even shocked, if they knew just how vehemently Pullman despises the Christian Church, and how much he loathes his dead rival, Lewis. He is, in fact, the Anti-Lewis.
He has described the Narnia Chronicles as grotesque, disgusting, ugly, poisonous and nauseating. Yet, as Michael Ward, an expert on Lewis, has pointed out, Pullman’s saga begins just as Lewis’s does with a girl hiding in a wardrobe and finding more than she bargained for. It is almost as if he wants to turn Narnia upside-down and then jump on it. While Lewis portrays rationalist atheists as comically ghastly and joyless, Pullman depicts priests as evil and murderous, drunk and probably perverted, and the Church as a conspiracy against happiness and kindness.


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How am I a hypocrite, exactly?

In the f.cking movie, the 'evil' Catholics were replaced with dogmatic religions in general - where's the anti-Christian semtiment there?

The books are a slightly different story, but you've still failed to show how they teach the un-ethical.
Ill inform you rather than have you do that.
The movie obviously leads kids to picking up the books, which as described, are nothing short of religious hatred.


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Pullmanís stories are crammed with the supernatural and the mystical, and take place mainly in alternative worlds, most captivatingly of all in an Oxford recognisably the same place while utterly different. But while Narnia is under the care of a benevolent, kindly creator, Pullmanís chaotic universe has no ultimate good authority, controlling and redeeming all. God, or someone claiming to be God, dies meaninglessly in the third volume of his trilogy. There is life after death, but it is a dark, squalid misery from which oblivion is a welcome release. Pullman puts forward a complex theory of manís true destiny, and his stories are a powerful epic that everyone should read. But many who buy these books for children and grandchildren would be surprised, and even shocked, if they knew just how vehemently Pullman despises the Christian Church, and how much he loathes his dead rival, Lewis. He is, in fact, the Anti-Lewis.
He has described the Narnia Chronicles as grotesque, disgusting, ugly, poisonous and nauseating. Yet, as Michael Ward, an expert on Lewis, has pointed out, Pullmanís saga begins just as Lewisís does with a girl hiding in a wardrobe and finding more than she bargained for. It is almost as if he wants to turn Narnia upside-down and then jump on it. While Lewis portrays rationalist atheists as comically ghastly and joyless, Pullman depicts priests as evil and murderous, drunk and probably perverted, and the Church as a conspiracy against happiness and kindness.
This only suggests that the book doesnt even kill a god in the first place, it only kills an imposter, claiming to be god. How does this help your claim? So he hates lewis, big deal, I fail to see how this helps your point at all.

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Pullmanís stories are crammed with the supernatural and the mystical, and take place mainly in alternative worlds, most captivatingly of all in an Oxford recognisably the same place while utterly different. But while Narnia is under the care of a benevolent, kindly creator, Pullmanís chaotic universe has no ultimate good authority, controlling and redeeming all. God, or someone claiming to be God, dies meaninglessly in the third volume of his trilogy. There is life after death, but it is a dark, squalid misery from which oblivion is a welcome release. Pullman puts forward a complex theory of manís true destiny, and his stories are a powerful epic that everyone should read. But many who buy these books for children and grandchildren would be surprised, and even shocked, if they knew just how vehemently Pullman despises the Christian Church, and how much he loathes his dead rival, Lewis. He is, in fact, the Anti-Lewis.
He has described the Narnia Chronicles as grotesque, disgusting, ugly, poisonous and nauseating. Yet, as Michael Ward, an expert on Lewis, has pointed out, Pullmanís saga begins just as Lewisís does with a girl hiding in a wardrobe and finding more than she bargained for. It is almost as if he wants to turn Narnia upside-down and then jump on it. While Lewis portrays rationalist atheists as comically ghastly and joyless, Pullman depicts priests as evil and murderous, drunk and probably perverted, and the Church as a conspiracy against happiness and kindness.
I see no un-ethical teachings within that review.
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Pullman depicts priests as evil and murderous, drunk and probably perverted, and the Church as a conspiracy against happiness and kindness.
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Are you .........................???????????
Have you even began to read ABOUT the books? (asides from this thread)


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Pullman depicts priests as evil and murderous, drunk and probably perverted, and the Church as a conspiracy against happiness and kindness.
Are you .........................???????????
Have you even began to read ABOUT the books?
How is that teaching anyone how to act? Un-ethical teachings would be more along the lines of having said corrupt people be good guys, rather than bad.
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I can see how the religious community might have a hissy fit over movies like The Da Vinci Code. The movie made some neat points and was actually somewhat convincing, but this movie is SO much different. It makes no remarks about christianity or any other major religion from what I've seen and it is so fictional you could easily deam it more magical then Harry Potter. POLAR BEARS TALK, WALK UPRIGHT, AND EVEN WEAR GOLD PLATED ARMOR. I mean seriously? Does the religios community really have to try and boycott a movie just because it has some kids killing a fictional god?
Isn't this what we're talking about, or are you just very lost?
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Isn't this what we're talking about, or are you just very lost?
Owned FTW?
What are you talking about kid? I made the thread. I know exactly what we are talking about. You just failed in every single way possible, and made yourself look like a complete and utter fool, moron, idiot, and every other word that comes to mind. Congratulation, you officially suck at life.

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My responce was in concordance to what you originally posted.
Some people here are so immature when it comes to having a discussion, it ridiculous.


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