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Why is evolution, a theory about history, taught as if it is the same as this operational science? You cannot do experiments, or even observe what happened, in the past. :/
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are you serious


we can't observe the past????








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Why is evolution, a theory about history, taught as if it is the same as this operational science? You cannot do experiments, or even observe what happened, in the past. :/
This explains everything about evolution. I can't explain it any better myself.


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So apparently the topic is Science vs Religion now.
Science > religion because science actually has evidence to support their theories
Science > religion because atheists don't kill "infidels"
Science > religion beause religion makes people blind to the truth (Theories that are proven are still disregarded because their religion says it's not true)
Science > religion because someone who was trippin balls and was hallucinating probably wrote the bible and things of that nature.
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If no one witnessed the creation of the universe, then why do so many people act like their opinion is undeniably correct? This goes for atheists and theists alike. No matter what your preacher or 7th grade science teacher told you, nobody has the faintest idea.

I respect both sides to this coin. I think both creationism and evolution (also the big bang theory) are both valid theories, and I think its somewhat funny how angry people get when someones believes differently than they do. Calling others 'unintelligent' because they simply have a different opinion to a question nobody knows the correct answer to is really just silly. Its like questioning someones intelligence for liking different pizza toppings than you.


Lemme tell you something, and it might shock you. But Creationism is NOT a theory (scientific or otherwise), it is a religious belief. Scientific theories are not just mere, "Oh, I think x happened because of y." No, scientific theories require observations and facts.

For example, gravity is something that most people know that exists, whether through experience or schooling. We've defined it and everything. Gravity is there. Theories of gravitation, on the other hand, are there to explain WHY gravity exists. Those theories are then peer-reviewed to see if they make sense, if they need to be revised, etc.

Creationism is not a scientific theory because it's plain batshit. There is no supporting evidence for it, scientific or otherwise. If you seem to think so, please write your own scientific theory for it and get it accepted by the scientific community. Lemme tell you something, if that happens, then you've done something that no one has ever done before. But don't hold your breath, because it'll never happen.


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What is evolution?

Evolution is a broad, well-tested description of how Earth's present-day life forms arose from common ancestors reaching back to the simplest one-celled organisms almost four billion years ago. It helps explain both the similarities and the differences in the enormous number of living organisms we see around us.

By studying the sequence of changes in fossils found in successive layers of rock as well as the molecular evidence provided by modern genetics, scientists have been able to trace how ancient organisms through a process of descent with modification gave rise to profound changes in populations over time. Many new anatomical forms have appeared, while others have disappeared. In a very real sense, we are distant genetic cousins to all living organisms, from bacteria to whales.

Evolution occurs in populations when heritable changes are passed from one generation to the next. Genetic variation, whether through random mutations or the gene shuffling that occurs during sexual reproduction, sets the stage for evolutionary change. That change is driven by forces such as natural selection, in which organisms with advantageous traits, such as color variations in insects that cloak some of them from predators, are better enabled to survive and pass their genes on to future generations.

Ultimately, evolution explains both small-scale changes within populations and large-scale changes in which new species diverge from a common ancestor over many generations.
-American Association for the Advancement of Science


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Is evolution "just a theory?"

In detective novels, a "theory" is little more than an educated guess, often based on a few circumstantial facts. In science, the word "theory" means much more. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.
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Is there "evidence against" contemporary evolutionary theory?

No. There are still many puzzles in biology about the particular pathways of the evolutionary process and how various species are related to one another. However, these puzzles neither invalidate nor challenge Darwin's basic theory of "descent with modification" nor the theory's present form that incorporates and is supported by the genetic sciences. Contemporary evolutionary theory provides the conceptual framework in which these puzzles can be addressed and points toward ways to solve them.
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Is there a growing body of scientists who doubt that evolution happened?

No. The consensus among scientists in many fields, and especially those who study the subject, is that contemporary evolutionary theory provides a robust, well-tested explanation for the history of life on earth and for the similarity within the diversity of existing organisms. Very few scientists doubt that evolution happened, although there is lively ongoing inquiry about the details of how it happened. Of the few scientists who criticize contemporary evolutionary theory, most do no research in the field, and so their opinions have little significance for scientists who do.
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What is intelligent design?

"Intelligent design" consists of two hypothetical claims about the history of the universe and of life: first, that some structures or processes in nature are "irreducibly complex" and could not have originated through small changes over long periods of time; and second, that some structures or processes in nature are expressions of "complex specified information" that can only be the product of an intelligent agent.
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Is intelligent design a scientific alternative to contemporary evolutionary theory?

No. Intelligent design proponents may use the language of science, but they do not use its methodology. They have yet to propose meaningful tests for their claims, there are no reports of current research on these hypotheses at relevant scientific society meetings, and there is no body of research on these hypotheses published in relevant scientific journals. So, intelligent design has not been demonstrated to be a scientific theory. While living things are remarkably complex, scientists have shown that careful, systematic study of them can yield tremendous insights about their functions and origins (as it has in the past).

Intelligent design necessarily presupposes that there is an "intelligent designer" outside of nature who, from the beginning or from time to time, inserts design into the world around us. But whether there is an intelligent designer is a matter of religious faith rather than a scientifically testable question.
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09-03-2012
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I sometimes like to think we are the creation of an advanced species. And our whole universe just fits in some sort of tank in a lab.

How fucked would that be.

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We are all just a mole on Z's balls
 

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