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come on TDKR wasn't that bad
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08-23-2013
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I think you're overlooking a lot of reasons why Batman is/can be an attractive character and why Superman is/can be an unattractive character.

That said, I don't completely disagree.

As a side note though, I personally think the "Superman as Christ" analysis made by a number of people is highly flawed. I see where it comes from, but the similarities stop almost immediately after the loglines.
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#313
08-23-2013
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Of course I was painting it in broad strokes, and I guess I'm really addressing the neckbeards and grognards who think Batman+Preptime > *

I don't mean to speak from a position of objectivity here, and there are as many ways to read a thing as there are words in all of human language. But it is important to examine common reactions whether or not they are universal; a useful tool to do this is to assume the Least Convenient Possible World for a given stance.

My Jesus joke was tongue in cheek, and I don't really think it holds much water. It's a lazy, easy critical avenue to take. Better questions than "is this a biblical allegory?" are in the vein of "why does this seem to be a biblical allegory to me, situated within this particular interpretive community?" and "what does it say about me as a consumer of this media and about us as a culture that we are so willing to fall back on this trope?" Or even, "this is a biblical allegory, but so what?"

Rather than Literally Jesus, he's closer to Literally Our Idealized Selves. And that makes the difference we observe even more painful and infuriating.
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Of course I was painting it in broad strokes, and I guess I'm really addressing the neckbeards and grognards who think Batman+Preptime > *
That's Captain to a tee.



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Netflix alert: Dredd is now available to stream.
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God damn Elysium was so disappointingly infantile. Holy shit.

But Syd Mead and dem aesthetics. Dat retro futurism.










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God damn Elysium was so disappointingly infantile. Holy shit.
It really really was. I had unfairly high hopes though.
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#318
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Rather than Literally Jesus, he's closer to Literally Our Idealized Selves. And that makes the difference we observe even more painful and infuriating.
I don't know that I even agree with that though. Superman is pretty far from what I would consider an idealized version of myself, ironically for many of the reasons that I don't think Superman is compatible with a Christ figure.

That said, I do think the questions you mentioned in the previous paragraph are really worth asking. There's a really bizarre relationship between superheroes (and movie "heroes" in general) and Christ/similarly mythicized concepts that's really interesting to me.
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08-24-2013
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Has anyone watched 'Now You See Me'? I'm 3/4th done and its a pretty good movie. It's a bunch of magicians pulling off heists with the FBI chasing em.

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08-24-2013
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I want to see how you feel after the movie.
 

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