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This thread in my opionion is pointless. this whole topic of this part of the forum is pointless as well. nothing ever happens here. if somebody has been converted to the others side of atheism or christianity then please tell me, but if nobody has then in my opion this whole thing is pointless. christianity is run on faith not proof. the only way to find out if it is true is to die and nobody here wants to do that. there is no point is saying that one side is right on proof because neither side has enough of it. in the end we all have doubts on both sides of the issue. the only reason that we have sides is because of our beliefs and those are the only thing there is. you can tell me everything that scientist have found but i wont give a shit. chrisianity is my faith and i will follow it to the end. you all can keep argueing but like always it will amount to nothing. unless any of you have seen heaven or have seen the big bang then please post but other than that you have crap to truly win for your side of the battle since that is what you want it to be colostomizer.
the last thing that i have to post is that i have respect for all you for your post in this thread. your all fighting for you beliefs and that is cool in my opionon. either way it works whoever is right wont be able to showoff to it to the other side since whichever side wins will for the most part never really know it. Thanks if you actually took the time to read this. Sorry for the spelling and grammer but im typing in the dark. Peace.

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In your initial post, you did not say the word ''IF''. That word has the ability to change the meaning of a sentence.

''I'm going to go to college when I get the grades.''
(College is put across as a certainty)
''I'm going to go to college IF I get the grades.''
(There is a probability behind whether or not the person will go to college)

''Christianity can only be justified through faith''

(It is a certainty that Christianity can be justified.)
''Christianity can be justified through faith IF faith is enough to justify it''
(There is a probability behind whether or not Christianity can be justified)

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christianity is run on faith not proof.
Yes. I agree with that, I havn't made this point in these forums, until I find the bible reference that tells us that. I think the name of this forum should be a 'Religion Discussion'. I don't think the forum is totally pointless, because I think it can serve some purpose, I just think the name is inappropriate.

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In your initial post, you did not say the word ''IF''. That word has the ability to change the meaning of a sentence.

''I'm going to go to college when I get the grades.''
(College is put across as a certainty)
''I'm going to go to college IF I get the grades.''
(There is a probability behind whether or not the person will go to college)

''Christianity can only be justified through faith''

(It is a certainty that Christianity can be justified.)
''Christianity can be justified through faith IF faith is enough to justify it''
(There is a probability behind whether or not Christianity can be justified)
You must be blind

He clearly said before that faith alone is not enough to justify, even though it is the ONLY way.

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In your initial post, you did not say the word ''IF''. That word has the ability to change the meaning of a sentence.

''I'm going to go to college when I get the grades.''
(College is put across as a certainty)
''I'm going to go to college IF I get the grades.''
(There is a probability behind whether or not the person will go to college)

''Christianity can only be justified through faith''

(It is a certainty that Christianity can be justified.)
''Christianity can be justified through faith IF faith is enough to justify it''
(There is a probability behind whether or not Christianity can be justified)
You ignored the word can. Can does not imply certainty.
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You must be blind

He clearly said before that faith alone is not enough to justify, even though it is the ONLY way.

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It can only be justified through faith
Hence, I am not blind. That is what he said, that is what I have quoted in my previous post bar changin the word 'it' to the word 'christianity'

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You ignored the word can. Can does not imply certainty.
Yes. the word ''can'' does not imply certainty, altho in use in the sentence
''Christianity can only be justified through faith''
''Can'' implies that Christianity is justifiable and not justifiable.
But the certainty remains that ''Christianity can be justified''

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Yes. the word ''can'' does not imply certainty, altho in use in the sentence
''Christianity can only be justified through faith''
''Can'' implies that Christianity is justifiable and not justifiable.
But the certainty remains that ''Christianity can be justified''
tommy, baby, you're wrong. Since you won't listen to reason, I've got another idea. If you have PayPal, I will bet money on it. Seriously. We can both send $50 or so to a neutral party, someone we both trust and who also has a PayPal account, and consult an authority on the English language to determine whether or not you are right.
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tommy, baby, you're wrong. Since you won't listen to reason, I've got another idea. If you have PayPal, I will bet money on it. Seriously. We can both send $50 or so to a neutral party, someone we both trust and who also has a PayPal account, and consult an authority on the English language to determine whether or not you are right.
No.
I am right.
Inserting the word ''if'' changes the meaning of a sentence.

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No.
I am right.
Inserting the word ''if'' changes the meaning of a sentence.
If you're so confident, there shouldn't be a problem putting money on it.
 

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