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Did you just read God's Debris or something?


It's not really a "better" question.
I haven't read anything.


I was just thinking and the question can God destroy himself came to mind.
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I haven't read anything.


I was just thinking and the question can God destroy himself came to mind.
Read more, then think, then post.
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Ok i am not biased towards this answer in any way, its just one that i am confused by. So if a knowledgeable Christan could answer please.

Do you have to accept Jesus Christ as your savior to be granted access to heaven?

Thank you, and once this is answered will a mod please close.

Yes.
You have to accept lord Jesus Christ as your own personal savior.
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So anyone want to answer my second statement?

(Particularly someone who thinks that acceptance of Jesus Christ is necessary to go to 'Heaven')
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Read more, then think, then post.
No. Read more, think, then think more, then post.
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Ok i am not biased towards this answer in any way, its just one that i am confused by. So if a knowledgeable Christan could answer please.

Do you have to accept Jesus Christ as your savior to be granted access to heaven?

Thank you, and once this is answered will a mod please close.

If you believe in Christianity, then you believe that Jesus Christ is your savior. There really is no decision to be made, that's the basis of Christianity. If you don't believe in Christianity's version of things, then you won't go to Christian heaven or hell. You can't go somewhere you don't believe in.
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So those who deny the existence of 'Christ' yet live by acceptable standards and live more morally than any other Christian still go to hell.
Exactly. You just proved my point.

You could be the greatest person on earth, but according to most christians, if you don't accept Christ, you will go to hell.

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Exactly. You just proved my point.

You could be the greatest person on earth, but according to most christians, if you don't accept Christ, you will go to hell.
Those type of Christians are fuck tards. You go where you believe in and it doesn't matter what you believe in. As long as you believe in something, whether it be Christ or that you will trust and believe in your own experiences.
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So those who deny the existence of 'Christ' yet live by acceptable standards and live more morally than any other Christian still go to hell.

My point still stands. It's an easily exploited flaw within Christianity (the dogma of believing in Jesus Christ)
Its a combination of things. One most accept jesus as his savior but just because u do that doesn't mean your getting a free ticket to heaven. Once you accept jesus you have to attempt to remain morally correct, follow in christs teachings, do good works and be an overall positive person. But you must do all of this with true intentions of good.
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Its a combination of things. One most accept jesus as his savior but just because u do that doesn't mean your getting a free ticket to heaven. Once you accept jesus you have to attempt to remain morally correct, follow in christs teachings, do good works and be an overall positive person. But you must do all of this with true intentions of good.
Not necessarily. According to Christianity, if one is sorry for their actions, they will be forgiven.

I.E. - Child rapist/murder says, "I'm sorry." right before he's lethally injected and, by Christian standards, goes to 'Heaven' (or at least purgatory as Catholicism teaches in order to pay for the unpayed justice he still owes).



(Unrelated to the topic)
I don't think it's stupid to believe in a higher being, naturally as sentient beings we find comfort in something that is higher than us and can help us along the path we call life, but what I do find stupid is that we join religions that tell us what to do and how to think.

Theism itself, I don't think is stupid, its religion that just screws up the whole thing. If there is anyone that made us (yada yada yada...) then I don't think they give a shit whether we thank them or not, and more so that no religion can accurately show how they supposedly helped us.

All of that would have to contradict what we know and thereby go against logic, which is a big reason I'm not a theist, but I don't shut the door and put my fingers in my ears on the possibility of a mother-race, being, whatever.
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Those type of Christians are f.ck tards. You go where you believe in and it doesn't matter what you believe in. As long as you believe in something, whether it be Christ or that you will trust and believe in your own experiences.
It's good that you don't think that way. What about an atheist though who believes in nothing? (Or did you mean to include any belief whatsoever?)
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