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Our country lost touch with what it means to be free a long time ago. Most don't realize they're living in a neo feudal state, where any real trace of privacy and property rights have been swept away by the overarching power of crony capitalism.
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Guilty of exposing war crimes, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. Fuck america
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08-02-2013
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You can torture innocents to death, you can kill children, you can rape civilians, and get promoted. God forbid you expose the war crimes.

Fuck this planet and fuck any of you brainwashed retards that think the military is fighting for your freedom and or the freedom of others.
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My whole view is just that he leaked information to WikiLeaks without thinking that it may put his fellow soldiers and citizens of this country at risk.
that's very black and white, can't somebody understand possible negative results of his/her actions and still see the greater good in them.
soldiers are always at risk in hostile zones, it's more important to find out what they risk their lives for and learning for the next time they might risk it than negating that for the chance of hostiles becoming a tad more hostile.

the single most powerful nation in the world attacks a couple of countries in response to a gruesome act of terrorists 12 years ago, the situation is still sour and so far without clear end and has lead/leads to tension between people and governments all across the world. You dont see how making that process more transparent is of a higher importance, giant governmental bodies dont easily learn from shit without someone pushing their face into the giant heap of shit they left on the carpet. it's there and it's smelly and it should be cleaned up.
where do we as a society draw lines on what our representatives can do in secret. if not for these people the public debate would be baseless and naive and everyone saying the government does horrible things without proof is shot down as unpatriotic, not supporting the troops and ridiculed as badly as people saying they got fucked by aliens.

there's not really a well guided path for people to leak shit super ethically and still effectively as far as I know, go to the Hague, go to the UN? these institutions have shown weak in the face of big countries, let alone the worlds major power and even if they were to be strict they would judge but not show the people all the documents. it's never gonna have the same consequences, positive and negative.

im not read up on manning, but that's my gut response.


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Guilty of exposing war crimes, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. Fuck america
I mean to be fair, I think that was only a small part of the documents he leaked.


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