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Absolutely it should, if that's what the people want.

In a free society people should be able to believe what they want.
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11-14-2011
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I would not be in favor of banning works of fiction or nonfiction. I also would not be in favor of giving anyone the power to decide what is true and not true and thus what to ban and what to permit.

I don't know, maybe I don't understand what "keeping religion out of society" would mean. Stop the human mind from being creative? Stop humans from having access to works of fiction? Even banning works of philosophy that someone would deem to be untrue?

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Absolutely it should, if that's what the people want.

In a free society people should be able to believe what they want.
I believe in a religion that advocates the rape and murder of everyone.

That isn't true, but you srsly have no problems with that?
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not at all. let's see how many members you get
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not at all. let's see how many members you get
You'd be surprised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_cult
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You said rape and murder though.

Who exactly is a suicide cult harming beside themselves? How does that in any way interfere with my life?
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Sigh, you really think people who will agree to kill themselves can't be tempted into murder and rape when armies willingly do that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_nanking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_du...ation_of_Japan
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lol

why didn't you just say what you were getting at?

But no, those single events can't dictate peoples freedom of creativity and thought.
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lol

why didn't you just say what you were getting at?
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But no, those single events can't dictate peoples freedom of creativity and thought.
I read something along the lines of this.

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Events where people kill and rape other people as a direct result of propaganda and conditioning to dehumanize those beings doesn't prove that people can be convinced to do what other people have done because they have the capacity to think.
So you really think that people can't be convinced to rape and murder people despite clear evidence of the contrary?

I know you're not very good at history so let me enlighten you on this Nazi Germany place. This guy named Hitler managed to come into power there by convincing everyone that a fascist government that advocates the genocide of some peoples the world over was the right thing to do. Sure, some people didn't buy into it, and others found it a bit extreme but bowed down to authority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment), but there were plenty who advocated his message and advocated it violently.

Are tens of millions people enough for you Yeshwa, or do you need a burning bush?
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So you really think that people can't be convinced to rape and murder people despite clear evidence of the contrary?
Dude, where are you getting this shit? Where did I even hint at that?

and

Are you saying that all rapists and murderers are religious?

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I know you're not very good at history so let me enlighten you on this Nazi Germany place. This guy named Hitler managed to come into power there by convincing everyone that a fascist government that advocates the genocide of some peoples the world over was the right thing to do.
Honestly, there are 2 sides to the debate of the history of Nazi Germany. The most intelligent and advanced nation on Earth just all decided one day to kill Jews...for...fun? This is justified in labeling them racist although they were the only ones allied with a foreign race from the beginning of WW11.

Hitler had legit reasons for going to war but where he want wrong was he ended up targeting groups instead of singling out the right people.
 

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