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I like that much better as well, with a larger gap between 1 and 2 and the top 3 and the rest. Need a lot of donations to make stuff like this work better though
No, that's exactly what I wouldn't want. From my experience, the top tier videos are always really close, and there is rarely a single video that is actually significantly better than the others. It comes down to public opinion, but in general the best videos each have qualities that they are the best at. Basically, I don't think there's really a reason to give the 1st place video that much more money than the 2nd or 3rd place video because they won a popularity contest. All of the top videos are phenomenal in their own way.
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Why do you and others keep saying stuff like this? Why do you think you don't have a serious chance to compete? It's like you're asking for a prize handout because you're not able or willing to put in the time and effort to make something worth remembering.
Because it's like an amateur golfer having 8 months to practice then have to beat out multiple pros...? It took years for some of these editors to learn and practice this stuff and others have already spent years saving gameplay.

I wasn't asking for a prize. Winning a couple extra dollars wouldn't even matter to me, but I can see how it would to some people and it's certainly an incentive to some extent.

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No, that's exactly what I wouldn't want. From my experience, the top tier videos are always really close, and there is rarely a single video that is actually significantly better than the others. It comes down to public opinion, but in general the best videos each have qualities that they are the best at. Basically, I don't think there's really a reason to give the 1st place video that much more money than the 2nd or 3rd place video because they won a popularity contest. All of the top videos are phenomenal in their own way.
I'd just like people to strive to be the best, not to be in the top group. Having a larger competition among the best video producers.

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You do realize midpoint won once right? Making something super personal and capturing your experience to the dot easily has as much power as the sickest fx. Put your hours in to make your concept work and you have a shot.
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Because it's like an amateur golfer having 8 months to practice then have to beat out multiple pros...? It took years for some of these editors to learn and practice this stuff and other have already spent years saving gameplay.
Except it's not like that, at all.

Edit: Hans literally learned how to edit for the purpose of creating Dualtality. To my knowledge, he'd never done any serious editing prior to that, and Dualtality won the first H3FMC. There are no excuses, the deadline is 8 months away.

What slater said.
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I like the idea of a random lottery prize, so long as there is an entry fee.

I can't wait to play and edit again.
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I like the idea of a random lottery prize, so long as there is an entry fee.

I can't wait to play and edit again.
We might change the prizes based on what people want, but we will not change our stand on entry fees.
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We might change the prizes based on what people want, but we will not change our stand on entry fees.
From the looks of it, it seems like people are pretty open to the idea of donating, which is awesome, so hopefully you'll reach your goals without entry fees.
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Except it's not like that, at all.
Umm, Yeah it's actually very similar, maybe not identical because like slater said, you can still find a way to put emotion in your video and there's subjectivity - to an extent - but I'm certainly not even close to being on an even playing field with people who have been practising and gaining gameplay over many years. And I didn't mean only experience in effects and software like you're making it out to be, I mean in video making as well, experience in making a more emotional video is just as valuable as knowing the ins and outs of software. Look at tranq's videos, like his final halo 3 montage. He couldn't have made that on his first go. Look at the progression in kblocker's videos over time despite using the same software all the way through. It would be extremely difficult for me to make a video with enough passion and have an emotional affect to win out on it's own. I never said it would be impossible. I understand it's subjective to an extent, but there are a ton of very talented editors that will be competing in this competition. I'm not saying I can't win, I'm saying I'm already way behind the ball, my chances are very low before it's even began.

And to slater, I'm not sure who midpoint is, but times have certainly changed. The amount of experience some editors have now is beyond anything I could possible learn in this amount of time, making it even more difficult to compete that way. Although you're right, it's possible.

A lot of people are going to look at this competition and say, for example, Marksman has been saving gameplay for 5 years, FatRat for a couple years as well and they both will have some amazing clips and likewise to editors, even to a further extent actually. And realize their shot at competing is minimal at best. That's the way a lot of people are going to look at it, despite what you guys believe it actually is. If you knew Kampy has been saving clips over the past 3 years and Zola is going to be editing a video for it, you're not going to think you have much of a chance in winning with a Halo 3 video, that's how I feel and I know for a fact many others do as well. All I'm saying. I get that you're trying to tell me not to look at it that way, but for the reasons I mentioned, I really can't.

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Except it's not like that, at all.

Edit: Hans literally learned how to edit for the purpose of creating Dualtality. To my knowledge, he'd never done any serious editing prior to that, and Dualtality won the first H3FMC. There are no excuses, the deadline is 8 months away.

What slater said.
Dualtality was created in 2009. People know how to properly use angles now. At that time, there were only a handful of people who had been editing for over 2 years. It's very different now. Either way, if true, that's incredible.

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Dualtality was created in 2009. People know how to properly use angles now. At that time, there were a handful of people who had been editing for over 2 years. It's very different now. Either way, if true, that's incredible.

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